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	<title>Comments on: Grouply isn&#8217;t cool</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Lebkowsky</title>
		<link>http://weblogsky.com/2008/12/27/grouply-isnt-cool/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lebkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you mean that I was misguided in that I believed that they were trying to fix the issues with their system, and you&#039;re saying that hasn&#039;t happened yet. I&#039;m surprised they haven&#039;t changed their ways. They could have built a successful Yahoo Groups aggregator if they&#039;d been more patient (or less greedy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you mean that I was misguided in that I believed that they were trying to fix the issues with their system, and you&#8217;re saying that hasn&#8217;t happened yet. I&#8217;m surprised they haven&#8217;t changed their ways. They could have built a successful Yahoo Groups aggregator if they&#8217;d been more patient (or less greedy).</p>
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		<title>By: Lee-lee</title>
		<link>http://weblogsky.com/2008/12/27/grouply-isnt-cool/comment-page-1/#comment-651</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee-lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are sadly misguided.  I was sent an invitation from someone who seemed to know me and know about the yahoo group I belonged to.  When I replied that they never contact me again using a grouply email addy, they wrote back that they did not send the message.  I forwarded the message to them and though this person did belong to grouply, she did not send the message.  She promptly left grouply for using her yahoo/grouply email address to spam Yahoo group members.  I promptly had to send a letter written by my legal-eagle neice for them to never send me an invite again in life or I would sue for unsolicited email messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are sadly misguided.  I was sent an invitation from someone who seemed to know me and know about the yahoo group I belonged to.  When I replied that they never contact me again using a grouply email addy, they wrote back that they did not send the message.  I forwarded the message to them and though this person did belong to grouply, she did not send the message.  She promptly left grouply for using her yahoo/grouply email address to spam Yahoo group members.  I promptly had to send a letter written by my legal-eagle neice for them to never send me an invite again in life or I would sue for unsolicited email messages.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lebkowsky</title>
		<link>http://weblogsky.com/2008/12/27/grouply-isnt-cool/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lebkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other note: I did get a response from Grouply cofounder Mark Robins noting that &quot;Grouply gives you the ability to send invitations to fellow group members -- up to about 40 or so per group.  Grouply doesn&#039;t do anything automatically, though.  You need to initiate this by clicking a button, such as &#039;Invite to Grouply&#039; or &#039;Send Invites&#039;.  Grouply typically shows you a confirmation box where you need to confirm that you want to send the invites.&quot; He asked if I clicked the confirmation. My clear impression at the time was that I was not inviting nonmembers, but that I was getting an opportunity to connect with members of some of my Yahoo groups that were  already on Grouply. Am I a clueless user, or is this a user experience issue? Maybe both... I&#039;m a little too quick sometimes to try out new systems... and I&#039;m finding that most new systems don&#039;t offer anything I&#039;m not already getting via various systems that are well-established and, because they&#039;re popular platforms that have been around for a while, offer better &#039;network effect.&#039; More than one acquaintance wrote me to say they&#039;re already on Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter, and don&#039;t see the need to joint YASN (&quot;yet another social network&quot;).

Web innovators, take note. This is not the platform to reinvent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other note: I did get a response from Grouply cofounder Mark Robins noting that &#8220;Grouply gives you the ability to send invitations to fellow group members &#8212; up to about 40 or so per group.  Grouply doesn&#8217;t do anything automatically, though.  You need to initiate this by clicking a button, such as &#8216;Invite to Grouply&#8217; or &#8216;Send Invites&#8217;.  Grouply typically shows you a confirmation box where you need to confirm that you want to send the invites.&#8221; He asked if I clicked the confirmation. My clear impression at the time was that I was not inviting nonmembers, but that I was getting an opportunity to connect with members of some of my Yahoo groups that were  already on Grouply. Am I a clueless user, or is this a user experience issue? Maybe both&#8230; I&#8217;m a little too quick sometimes to try out new systems&#8230; and I&#8217;m finding that most new systems don&#8217;t offer anything I&#8217;m not already getting via various systems that are well-established and, because they&#8217;re popular platforms that have been around for a while, offer better &#8216;network effect.&#8217; More than one acquaintance wrote me to say they&#8217;re already on Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter, and don&#8217;t see the need to joint YASN (&#8220;yet another social network&#8221;).</p>
<p>Web innovators, take note. This is not the platform to reinvent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lebkowsky</title>
		<link>http://weblogsky.com/2008/12/27/grouply-isnt-cool/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lebkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you thought to check me out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you thought to check me out!</p>
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		<title>By: Garreth Wilcock</title>
		<link>http://weblogsky.com/2008/12/27/grouply-isnt-cool/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Garreth Wilcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon

I just got your grouply invitation this morning! I recognized your name so I came here to investigate, but if I hadn&#039;t, it would just have gone straight to the spam folder. Now I&#039;ve read this and it&#039;s gone straight to the spam folder ;)

Garreth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon</p>
<p>I just got your grouply invitation this morning! I recognized your name so I came here to investigate, but if I hadn&#8217;t, it would just have gone straight to the spam folder. Now I&#8217;ve read this and it&#8217;s gone straight to the spam folder ;)</p>
<p>Garreth</p>
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